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Post by olivia_the_vulcan on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:18 pm

Well?

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by anon on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:52 pm

a good question live, for dragons and elfs/ d&d etc , always gonne be and old school good fantasy, whereas future/tech stuff sci-fi, thats how I draw the line.Steam punk is the sci-fi. Smile

but i guess, the sci-fi is just a part of the fantasy, like a subset.
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Post by olivia_the_vulcan on Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:19 pm

I agree. I actually view Star Wars to be more fantasy than Sci-Fi, for instance. Also, I think Steam Punk is more fantasy than Sci-Fi, depending on the story itself though.

For me, sci-fi is where there is obvious fiction, whether or not it's futuristic doesn't quite matter, but there are drawn out and specific details to the "science" part of it. Like in Star Trek, Alien Anthology, Event Horizon, etc.

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by anon on Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:29 pm

but, these specific details of science , is fantasy, because most of them will not ever happen, so i think sci-fi is bit more complex than just science-y written work, it is a idea that science replaces magic in most of the fantasy works, and yet there has to be more to it...

you may laugh at me, but star trek/star gate in my idea is fantasy, for a true sci-fi I believe is Tron, Enders Game...
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Post by JNK on Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:35 pm

let's say if it has blaster and warp/FTL/starburst/hyperdrive... it's scifi... 'cause otherwise line is very blurry... look at star wars (and force), dune (and spice, mesiah, etc.), also series like star trek, farscape, babylon 5 have lots of mystical stuff...

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Post by Ephemeral on Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:46 pm

I kinda agree with anon here (if I'm understanding correctly). It's all fantasy to me, hence the "fiction" part of "science fiction".
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by olivia_the_vulcan on Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:03 am

That's why I'm asking what you guys think, so I can get an understanding of how other people view it. I'm digging these answers so far.

Many people argue over which is "better" etc, and I think it's silly. It's all fiction, so it's all "fantasy". But sci-fi just has a science twist on it. It's harder to define than you think Wink

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by Ephemeral on Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:35 am

True that. Like others have said, something like Star Wars could be considered more fantasy than science fiction, but then I guess that depends on how you define "science" in the context of these make believe worlds. Does the mere existence of high tech looking... well, tech or machinery automatically make something sci fi? By that definition Neighbours would be sci fi 'cos it shows people using mobile phone tech that wasn't considered possible until a few years ago. I do think that defining line can be a blurry one.
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by anon on Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:34 pm

^^ what liv said.
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by SJFaerlind on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 pm

I think that the definitions are all relative to your own perspective. I define sci fi as using the scientific laws of the universe to make the currently impossible possible. If I was still alive 1000 years into the future I might label what I would call "sci fi" today as "historical fiction" at that point in time. I define fantasy as ignoring the scientific laws of the universe to make the currently impossible possible. In 1000 years people might have discovered things that makes what used to look like fantasy reality. Maybe then they'll call what I now label as "fantasy" "historical fiction" then too. I think the most accurate way to describe a story is to say that it has elements of fantasy or elements of sci fi instead. I've read/seen a few crossovers that incorporate some mixing of the genres and they're impossible to pin down. "Star Wars" is a great example. "There Will be Dragons" by John Ringo is another.
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by Klingon on Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:53 am

why define, just enjoy
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by SJFaerlind on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:39 am

Klingon wrote:why define, just enjoy
true dat Smile
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by JNK on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:28 am

yeah!

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by Ephemeral on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:32 am

No.

Pick apart everything until it is well and truly dead. So there.
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by JNK on Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:24 am

gimme some chalk I wanna draw the line!

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by Ephemeral on Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:28 am

Now you're talkin'! If I can't enjoy something then no one can! Dead bodies of fun stuff everywhere!
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by SJFaerlind on Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:16 am

ahem... this is the sci fi forum.... lasers only: NO CHALK!
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by JNK on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:14 am

but it's chalk with nano particles...

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by Ephemeral on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:21 pm

So it is kinda science fictiony...
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by JNK on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:56 pm

very much so!

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Post by Ephemeral on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:12 pm

See, I knew you'd come 'round to our way of thinking! Wink
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Post by SJFaerlind on Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:21 am

well.... I guess nano-chalk is probably OK... lasers are way cooler though
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Post by Ephemeral on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:03 pm

Admittedly, lasers make everything cooler. Wink
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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by JNK on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:32 pm

especially since nano-chalk did not do anythiong special... it's sole purpose was to be cool enough to be suitable for scifi...

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Re: What do you believe to be the defining line between fantasy and sci-fi?

Post by Ephemeral on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:13 pm

Well, quite. Razz
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